Why "Vegetarianism" is murder, or worse.

I often find my opinions at odds with some held in majority, even within sub-groups. I have heard over and over that 'meat is murder' as an inducement for me to consider a less meatful lifestyle, but the plea has always fallen on deaf ears. My mothers brother was an active hunter his whole life. Though he died when I was relatively young, he is still probably one of the main influences on my interests and activities around environmentalism. Here is just the first of many seeming contradictions in modern thought regarding these topics, in my opinion; it is often people who are interested in hunting, outdoor sports, etc., who are the strongest advocates for environmental protection, conservation and respect.

Wrong.

Vegetarians, as a movement, tend to cast heavy dispersion on the woodsman of today. From New York cafe' porches to the warm beaches of California, adorned in their own notions of fashion, they cast accusations and aggravations at the man clad in camouflage, leather and furs sitting on a board 15 feet in the air hundreds of minutes at a time. While it is true that such a man will (and intends to) shoot an animal upon sighting it, I fear the vegan more. In this instance a vegan pen is indeed much more than a sword, it is mightier than a million bullets.

Let us hypothesize upon the motives and progressive increase of the two camps of people in this example to their ultimate ends. While idealized and extreme for illustrative purposes, I will leave it to the reader to arrive at their own conclusions on potentialities. I fully respect people who make informed decisions about alternative means of sustenance , but I do so enjoy adding a little black or white to the grey areas that form up in harder contrast against one another.

The Hunter:

Primarily, the motivation is the activity and the reward. The hunting and the meat. A hunter need not be doctor, activist, scientist, opinionist, or anything else. For them to be human, have a mouth and stomach assembly, and to be awake and able bodied; are really the only factors that apply. The hunter wants to eat. Through years and many examples, it is known to them that meat has many benefits over strict grain/veg diets. Beef, chicken, pork, fish - and even weirder things like eggs (various), squids and crabs are delicious if cooked over fire - and also provide many seemingly obvious enhancements in nutrient quality and energy increase for the people who take the time (and have the skill) to hunt them and eat them.

The hunter intends to eat the meat. But more than this, many traditional hunters make every effort to utilize every aspect of the conquered delight. Bones can be used for many things. Sinews and organs also have found purposes. Additionally, for themselves there is little incentive to 'over-hunt'. Once the skins are jackets, and the bellies full, the rest of the animals are excess - or ought by right to belong to another. Of course, a keen eye must be kept to managing the supply, so it is often wise to offset consumption (and balance the diet as a result) with a mix of grains, veg and berries, etc. As well these things are often found to make wonderful accompaniment to meats through the dining experience.

Though a hunter will kill an animal, say shooting it in the heart in broad daylight; the entire experience is an event that cannot be understood well without partaking or witnessing it first hand. There is something ancient, esoteric and semi-spiritual buried deep under the neon-orange, the big beards and the big boots.

What a hunter, a true hunter and meat-eater, will not do - is kill wantonly. No hunter is ever mad at the animal they are going to consume. There is a subtle tenderness to the action that bespeaks the most kind-hearted concern. An appreciation, that all of us sojourners on the planet Earth are completely dependent on each other, on chance, on mystery and on remembering to try and do the right thing correctly.

That is not to say that the complete experience doesn't include getting completely georged-up and playing some music and talking the poop... but no hunter would be pleased in the least to hear you say something like "We're finally going to kill those deer all off and be done with it, in this country."

It would never be an achievement to a hunter to hear another hunter say he had killed and burned 73,000 ducks this season alone.

In many ways a hunter is the greatest conservationist.

The Gatherer:

A modern gatherer is  primarily either unable or unwilling to participate in the hunt. They see sufficient satisfaction, both personally and nutritionally, in the consumption of items which are specificallly non-meat based. Of course, there are many degrees of this viewpoint ranging from - nothing that ever germinates or lives, to; I can still eat eggs and one piece of bacon every few weeks. But at the end of the day, this entire viewpoint isn't an enticement to a better life in and of its own self, rather; eating meat is murder! Meat is said to be bad for you in some interpretations of this ideological fixation. Rather than celebrate encountering a meat gatherer and enjoying in the rituals and pure deliciousness -or anything positive, a moral high-ground is assumed. Meat is not to be augmented with veg to prevent eradication of populations; rather meat is to be avoided all together whenever possible for 'the sake of the animals'.

[[I am being quite harsh in my bias here, but those on the other side paint with as crimsoned a brush when arguing their side, so please indulge me.]]

The Extremes:

So lets say we adopt the hunter on a global scale; they want to eat meat. They do kill animals but there is, as I said,  a truly semi-spiritual aspect to the event for humans -in and of itself. Moreover they attempt to utilize all that they can from the animal for their benefit (increasing the yields of meat, leather, fur, etc.). They are acutely aware of maintaining stock levels and a good environment in order that they may continue to enjoy the benefits of the meat and associated items and rituals, etc. They are also completely open to the gatherer culture because augmentation is good in diet and for the maintenance of good lands and happy/healthy animals to later be consumed.

If we adopt the vegan to scale, their ideology dictates that they tell all meat-eaters they are bad and they need to stop. That is the primary function of "VEGETARIANISM" as an ideology to tell us all to stop eating meat. It is the very definition of the ethos to tell us we are wrong. For this example, lets say they win the day; no one is allowed to eat meat anymore. Ok, so then what ? In this example, animals will continue to breed and breed in what, the wild ? For argument sake, lets say the vegans win. Thusly all the farms are emptied of meat and the fences are finally torn down - the animals are free to wander about and eat what they may and breed away...

Soon animal population control will become an issue- so what then ? Then the entire society (vegans and all) will see the obvious requirement of, at least, transit control upon the animals. So they would be herded or penned-in regardless of our intent to use them or not....

But wait... in this example we do not eat or use or other wise "harm" or consume animals, right ?

So then what is to be done ? If we are not eating them. If we see their use as abhorrent. Suddenly, we will have indeed come to hate these fuking animals. They will represent nothing more than a problem, both in numbers and in futility of their existence. They will always be hogging up space, shitting everywhere, making noise, wrecking shit.... AND FOR WHAT ?!

Well, you know what comes next right ? Yep the fucking gas chambers. We will literally be lining them up to cut all their heads off and be done with them! To get that land back from the useless fucking animals. I mean, come on, no one is going to pay rent for a bunch of gawddam cows that no one can or wants to eat, right ?

Therefore, if you just think about it; the vegans actually advocate that we round up all the dirty rotten animals on the planet, shoot them in their ugly, flatulent faces, and then burn them just to be done with them... after-all, we can't eat, wear or decorate with them, right?

Funny thing to me is; they don't seem to know it.

"Meat is murder!!!" is casually thrown about alongside pictures of animals lined up to the block to be turned in to AAA ground, bacon, or say; rib-eyes. But the other end of the spectrum on this pro- or anti-meat agenda is also the block (or worse). Part of the culpability for murder is that intent is part of the resolution of the act. The hunter wants the meat- cares about the meat. Also by extension cares for the meat. A vegan wants to take all the cows away from you, and from themselves. No more cows. Vegans are often also against zoos, so meat would quickly fade to legend in lands so dominated by the modern SJW gatherers.

If animals exist they exist under the burden of the block. Its Biblical. Between the birth and the block- they are our burden. They literally live to serve us, having no civilized will of heir own other than to take up our space and eventually starve us out. We must be more considerate of their care than to actually try to stop people from eating them, or to stop eating them ourselves, in my opinion.

When I went to my local RIBFEST last year, there was literally a guy writing MEAT is MURDER with side-walk chalk, and he had a bunch of pictures posted of animals all cut up... I told him right on the spot that he was wrong, that animals were here to serve us, that it's our duty to take care of them including to eat them and enjoy their juicy deliciousness, so that we might respect them all the more.... He just got to a point where he finally had nothing left to say - so I said, "...and besides, what's your deal man? Come with us, we're ALL going to rib fest ! (by this time a bit of a crowd had formed up). He just shook his head and went back to writing hate on the ground - the rest of us cheered and proceeded to get stuffed on beef and beer. Now either he's a visionary or he's wrong. Either way, I thought it was important that someone finally point out that intent matters, and if the vegans ever really win this thing - we will round up all the animals and shoot them out of malice, so like -

To me; "No-meat" is the real murder. It is, in fact, a genocidal ideology against animals in instances where the individual also takes a position against Zoos as worthwhile institutions. In my opinion, that's way more revolting than a cheeseburger with onions and bbq sauce on a toasted bun served with a cool beer.

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